Open Thread: Cubs vs. Mariners, Friday 3/7, 2:05 CT

by Al on Mar 7, 2008 11:18 AM CST in Game Threads Comment 243 comments

Hang in there. After today, the Cubs' next three games will all be televised (Saturday and Sunday on WGN, Monday on CSN; the Sunday and Monday games are also on MLB.TV), so you'll be able to follow most of the action.

Mark DeRosa is champing at the bit to start playing. The team wants him to take live BP first; DeRo says:

"If I'm going to struggle, this is the time to struggle in these games," DeRosa said. "I'm not too concerned about what my batting average is going to be in Spring Training. I'd rather be baptized by fire and get after it."

I like that attitude.

Kerry Wood's been throwing 98 MPH. Gordon Wittenmyer of the Sun-Times asked Wood:

And the last time he threw 98 in the spring?

"Probably, uh, never."

Not since 1998, anyway. That spring I sat for one of Wood's starts behind one of the scouts with a radar gun. I wanted to see for myself how fast Wood was throwing. The gun consistently showed between 96 and 98.

Wood's got to be the front-runner for closer now. It makes the most sense -- he's got the velocity and the mentality, and both Carlos Marmol and Bob Howry seem better suited for setup work. This could work out to be the best late-inning bullpen trio the Cubs have had in, well, maybe ever.

Bruce Miles writes today about something we've all seen: Lou Piniella's competitive fire.

Today's game is available at the MLB.com Mediacenter -- you'll hear the Mariners announcers via KOMO radio. Ted Lilly gets the start for the Cubs; Carlos Silva will go for Seattle. Left-handers Ryan Rowland-Smith and Eric O'Flaherty and right-handers R.A. Dickey and Sean Green are also scheduled to throw for Seattle. The latter info is from the Mariners website; I'm not sure why the Cubs website doesn't give this additional info. (Carrie Muskat? Are you listening?) Incidentally, Dickey can be fun to watch. He's a knuckleballer. A couple of years ago, he threw six shutout innings, allowing three hits, in a spring game vs. the Cubs, when he was with the Rangers.

Lineups, courtesy of Bruce Miles:

Bruce also tells me that Alfonso Soriano is scheduled to return to the lineup tomorrow.

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Discuss amongst yourselves.

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Finally A-Ram is back

Let's see what he can do.

Old Style is the nectar of life.

by Mordecai on Mar 7, 2008 11:23 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

It's good to finally see him in there.

by cubswin14 on Mar 7, 2008 11:36 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

THANKS, AL!

I am always pleased when I see someone has used the (proper) phrase "champing at the bit"!

by DonGerard on Mar 7, 2008 11:24 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Indeed!

Most people say "chomping."

by Bruce Miles on Mar 7, 2008 11:24 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm a stickler for grammar and spelling.

What can I say?

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 7, 2008 11:55 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

You sound like Mike Murphy

- he's on a crusade to correct people from saying "I COULD care less", when it's properly astated as "I COULDN'T care less".

"It's that wonderul relief that comes when they stop hitting you in the head with a hammer."

by lostinthevines on Mar 7, 2008 1:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

But sometimes...

I want people to know that I do sort of care a little, so I could care less if I wanted to.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 7, 2008 1:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm ambivalent about caring.

Worst to First in 2007, brought to you by Lou, Sori, A-Ram and D-Lee.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 7, 2008 2:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

And now for something completely different...

Sure this is offtopic and everything, but I was so shocked that I've been using that wrong for so many years, I looked it up on Wikipedia:

Champing at the bit, or chomping at the bit refers to a tendency of some horses, when impatient or nervous, and especially if being held back by their riders, to chew on the bit, often salivating excessively. This behavior is sometimes accompanied by head-tossing or pawing at the ground. Because this behavior was most often seen by the general public in horses who were anxious to begin a horse race in the days before the invention of the starting gate, the term has become popular in everyday speech to refer to a person who is anxious to get started or to do something. Because some impatient horses, when held back, would also occasionally rear, a related phrase, "raring to go," is also derived from observations of equine behavior.

An open invitation to visit Des Moines and watch the Iowa Cubs...

by IowaCubs- on Mar 7, 2008 12:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Technically, they're both right...

...chomping/champing...

An open invitation to visit Des Moines and watch the Iowa Cubs...

by IowaCubs- on Mar 7, 2008 12:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Lineup

Only three more and we finally have the regulars. Can't wait to see the game on WGN tomorrow.

by 23Ryno on Mar 7, 2008 11:24 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Question for Bruce...

How many Japanese media are at today's game compared to other ST games?

Old Style is the nectar of life.

by Mordecai on Mar 7, 2008 11:31 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

A lot more

Fukudome has his press corps, and Ichiro has his. They're both here.

by Bruce Miles on Mar 7, 2008 2:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Wow

You know, the Cubs have a lot of good hitters.
Think about it:

DLee
ARam
Fuku
Soriano

That's a very strong core of hitters.

"I am a Cubs fan, but I needed an American League team...so as a young girl, I became very interested and enamored of the Yankees." Senator Hillary Clinton

by ExNorthsider on Mar 7, 2008 11:50 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

Indeed

And when you add scrappy guys like Theriot and DeRosa, as well as a strong offensive catcher (let's hope) in Soto, the lineup looks very impressive. Also, I know everyone wants to trade him and he hasn't looked good off the bench in the past, but Murton does have solid hitting ability too and could be of use as a pinch hitter if he stays.

"Hey hey - kiss it goodbye! That one's in Milwaukee! Man oh man did he hit it. Isn't that something?" - Lou Boudreau, 5-17-79

by danimal15 on Mar 7, 2008 11:59 AM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Scrappy guys...?

Aren't you over this yet?

Scrappy does not equal "good hitter".

You know he was near the bottom for SS in the league last year, OBP/AVG. ?

HE is scrappy - but unfortunately, all we got.

Personally, he is a fantastic kid, but would be great as a spot starter/utility guy. This would be his role on most teams that are in contention, imo.

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 7, 2008 12:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Tell that to David Eckstein.

Guess he'll have to give his two WS rings back.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 7, 2008 12:20 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Al - most

people would not compare Eck to Ryan Theriot.

Ask around.

Look at the body of work, as well.

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 7, 2008 12:22 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'd compare them...

they are very similar players. Good plate discipline, scrappy, don't strike out much, don't have any power, arm considered well below average for SS. Similar career AVG/OBP/SLG numbers.

That's not to say anything positive about Theriot. Eckstein has had the slightly better career, but neither is a good player. Eckstein is highly overrated.

by SouthernCub on Mar 7, 2008 12:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Eckstein is wildly overrated...

...but that doesn't mean he's not a good ballplayer.

In fact, this comparison is rather unfair to Eckstein. Theriot is a bad baseball player. My Wins Above Replacement chart for shortstops as Eckstein at a full win plus change over Theriot for next season; Eckstein is on the downward slope of his career and Theriot is right at this prime. It's really not a fair comparison.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Mar 7, 2008 12:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I wouldn't say

theriot is a BAD baseball player....first off, ive seen many worse baseball players play in wrigley field over the past ten years. He also still could take a step forward from his rookie year.

by cubsmania on Mar 7, 2008 1:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Spiezio has two rings too...

that doesn't make him a good baseball player. Eckstein has two rings, but is a below-average baseball player. He needs to thank Pujols, Carpenter, Reyes, Suppan, and Curtis Granderson for his second ring, and Franky K, Lackey, Washburn, Glaus, and others for his first ring.

by SouthernCub on Mar 7, 2008 12:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

OK Al - Here were the NL 2007

SS Fielding "leaders" from ESPN. Pick one most "experts" would choose Ryan Theriot over:

Sortable Fielding:
NAME GP GS INN TC PO A E DP FPCT RF ZR
Troy Tulowitzki, Col 155 155 1375.0 834 262 561 11 114 .987 5.39 .866
Omar Vizquel, SF 143 136 1219.1 651 198 444 9 90 .986 4.74 .897
Jimmy Rollins, Phi 162 162 1441.1 717 227 479 11 110 .985 4.41 .824
Khalil Greene, SD 153 153 1396.1 690 218 461 11 98 .984 4.38 .855
Jack Wilson, Pit 131 131 1142.0 640 177 452 11 112 .983 4.96 .810
Jose Reyes, NYM 160 160 1431.1 660 203 445 12 88 .982 4.07 .863
J.J. Hardy, Mil 149 145 1272.2 578 168 397 13 83 .978 4.00 .797
Edgar Renteria, Atl 121 121 1019.1 480 147 322 11 71 .977 4.14 .800
Stephen Drew, Ari 147 143 1283.1 638 212 409 17 98 .973 4.36 .803
Rafael Furcal, LA 138 138 1210.0 686 241 426 19 99 .972 4.96 .851
Hanley Ramirez, Fla 151 150 1302.2 641 225 392 24 98 .963 4.27 .786
David Eckstein, StL 114 112 944.2 494 164 310 20 59 .960 4.52 .812
Felipe Lopez, Was 111

THE ENVELOPE PLEASE?

-ZERO-

Now, I am just basing this as of what he has done to this point in his "career". We'll see. At the very least, if Lou hits him 7th, and he plays a competent SS, we should be ok, imo.

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 7, 2008 12:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That's a list of fielding percentage...

and fielding percentage is widely considered a poor measure of fielding skill, as it can penalize range. When range is considered, Theriot tops Eckstein pretty handily.

I'm not saying Theriot is a good player. He's not. But at least use reasonable measures of defense.

by SouthernCub on Mar 7, 2008 12:32 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Eckstein is a better defender than Theriot...

...if you look at the Zone Rating data and remember to regress to the mean. Eckstein had an off year last season, but has been consistantly one of the better shortstops under UZR - plus 17 runs in 2006, plus 7 in 2005. He was five runs under Theriot in the first half of 2007; Theriot was at zero. Again: half-season, and regress to the mean.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Mar 7, 2008 12:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

How about

we give Theriot more time before we label him after one year in the big leagues. How many guys improved offensivly and defensivly after their first full year? Last he got thrown over at SS midseason after playing much more 2b over the last two years. Who says Theriot can't improve at SS after working on somethings this offseason and getting himself ready for the postion? Offensivly Theriot was Eckstein with better speed going into September. Before last year he never played many games over 120 games, oddly enough his struggles happen in his final 25 games or so of the season. Theriot admiited he was tired and got himself and said even in the minors he didn't play that much ever. In Theriot last three minor league seasons he was 365-367 OBP guy. So I'm not gonna label this guy a bad player yet, because I don't think he will be bad player. If he can become a 280-290,340-350 hitter with 30-40 SB potential at his postion. Sure it's still a long shot he improves that much, but I hate labeling a guy before he gets a chance or after one year.

by cubsfan25 on Mar 7, 2008 1:55 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

As I stated above

I like Theriot. And - he's all we have to play the position realistically now. If Roberts comes, DeRo could get SOME time there, but at least it would force LOU to play Ryan down in the lineup.

It is possible he's a late bloomer and will achieve to the numbers you cite.

I HOPE he does. We ALL HOPE he succeeds as well as all of the players we enjoy.

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 7, 2008 2:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Hanley Ramirez...

is not a good defensive SS. The can rake, but he's a Shawon Dunston in the field.

But he's young, so he'll probably get better. Just sayin...

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 7, 2008 12:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Actually I was just

posting a list of names.

It was a convenient way to put all of the SS's names together!

I wasn't trying to use the somewhat arbitrary FP stats.

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 7, 2008 12:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Again - I'd rather have

any of the above names before Ryan.

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 7, 2008 12:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I understand..

it's just dumb that ESPN would list him as a "fielding leader".

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 7, 2008 12:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Hanley Ramirez is probably the worst...

...full-time shortstop in the majors when it comes to defense. Which is fine; he hits for more than enough to overcome that inadequacy. And SOMEONE has to be the worst.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Mar 7, 2008 12:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

LOL!

"And SOMEONE has to be the worst."

Good One!

True, true...

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 7, 2008 12:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

There's no reason to think that.

Shortstops rely largely on their speed and range to get to balls, and that starts to fall off... pretty much as soon as they get into the majors. I think the peak age for defense at shortstop is 22 years old.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Mar 7, 2008 12:40 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree about the rings....

...I tend to think people get far too hung up on whether a players career is validated by winning a championship or two.

Winning a championship in team sports has a heck of a lot more to do with the TEAM, as opposed to what one player can do.

Some players get lucky and play on many teams that are well balanced and they win championships. Others, get stuck on teams that are missing pieces, and never win anything despite having great careers.

"I don't like them fellas that drive in two runs but let in three" Casey Stengel

by MPH73 on Mar 7, 2008 1:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

LSA!!!

Someone with logic about championships. Golf is the only sport where championships are measured as an individual accomplishment. I get so sick and tired of hearing how someone wasn't great because he never won a championship.

"Oh well, there's always next year!!!" Every Cub fan

by McRipper on Mar 7, 2008 1:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

No it's not...

Bowling

Pro-Wrestling and Tennis

and Midget Tossing

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 7, 2008 1:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That bowling picture is priceless!

Do you think Dick got dressed that day hoping to complement the lovely wallpaper?

by bjs on Mar 7, 2008 1:47 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

He does

look tan, ready and rested though.

"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"

by wild bill on Mar 7, 2008 2:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

LOL

Bowling is debatable as a sport. I forgot about Tennis honestly.

"Oh well, there's always next year!!!" Every Cub fan

by McRipper on Mar 7, 2008 2:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Um, bowling is a sport

"It's that wonderul relief that comes when they stop hitting you in the head with a hammer."

by lostinthevines on Mar 7, 2008 4:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

holy cow

is that a real photo of Nixon?

by wojo on Mar 7, 2008 2:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

It is real,

and I believe that's the picture from "the Big Lebowski".

by davidalanu on Mar 7, 2008 3:46 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Let me know

when the Cubs get a real lead-off hitter, someone that actually gets on base on a regular basis. The Cubs line-up is essentially the same one that got them swept in 3 games against Arizona in the playoffs except for Fukedome. It would be great to make it to the playoffs but how about putting a team on the field that can actually win the World Series. If Soriano is the lead-off hitter this will not happen!

by cubdreamer on Mar 7, 2008 5:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Let me know...

which of these guys you want us to get to make us a team that can win the World Series. You know, besides the ones already under contract and the one we already have you don't like batting leadoff.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 7, 2008 5:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

oy

stop dreaming and start researching..

http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/story/2008/1/11/123038/654

by wojo on Mar 7, 2008 9:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I would expect

to start seeing more runs scored in the next few games. With more of our regulars getting in the line-up and also more AB's each week I hope to see a little more production getting closer to the start of the season.

This is only the beginning....Lou Pinella end of '07 season and Chicago Transit Authority (the band when they were really good).

by mrcubsfan on Mar 7, 2008 11:50 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

I know ST wins don't matter, but...

I still hope we win. :D

Worst to First in 2007, brought to you by Lou, Sori, A-Ram and D-Lee.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 7, 2008 11:57 AM CST reply actions 0 recs

98!

I sat behind a radar gun at an Iowa Cubs game in his lone 1998 game here. Consistently 97, 96, 97 on his fastballs in a one hit, 10 strikeout game.

I hope he's that awesome again this year, or at least 95% of that guy.

An open invitation to visit Des Moines and watch the Iowa Cubs...

by IowaCubs- on Mar 7, 2008 12:00 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

from the Bruce Mills article:

Lou says: "Spring training doesn't change. It's the same thing almost every year. You bring 25-30 pitchers to camp and watch them throw on the side, and you say, 'Boy, what a great collection of arms we've got this year, and we're going to have a tough choice of paring down.'

"Then you know what? Every year, the decisions are made for you quite quickly."

Neil Cotts... paging Neil Cotts...

Worst to First in 2007, brought to you by Lou, Sori, A-Ram and D-Lee.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 7, 2008 12:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Wood & Marmol

I don't know where this perception comes from that Marmol isn't suited to the role. Yeah, he struggled in his two postseason appearances, so people start to say he can't handle pressure. But he was also a young pitcher who had been worked extensively all season. By all accounts he closed and did quite well in the Caribbean league. He's certainly got the stuff to be a closer -- so what is it based on when people say he lacks the makeup? Doesn't fly for me.

On Wood, god bless him, love the guy. But if anything worries me its the thought of him pitching the 9th on back-to-back-to-back days in the April cold. Not saying they should treat him with kid gloves, but you have to be a little careful with the guy. Its not about whether he can throw 98, but whether he can throw anywhere in the 90s and still make 50-60 appearances.

"All We Are Saying, Is Give Pie(ace) a Chance" -- John Lennon

by Orval Overall on Mar 7, 2008 12:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I wasn't trying to say...

... that Marmol isn't suited to be a closer. He very well may be. But I think he's BETTER as a setup guy.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 7, 2008 12:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

re

clearly there are some excellent pitchers thats true of -- LaTroy Hawkins was dominant as a set up pitcher, terrible as a closer. Octavio Dotel the same way in Houston.

But it seems to me that closer is a much more important role, so even if he is a little better as a set up man but still excellent as a closer, you want him in the 9th. if he's a hawkins/dotel type who implodes under pressure, then of course use him in the 8th.

My only point is we don't yet know whether he can be an effective closer, and its worth trying to find out.

"All We Are Saying, Is Give Pie(ace) a Chance" -- John Lennon

by Orval Overall on Mar 7, 2008 12:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I disagree...

the closer role is much less important than the fireman role in the 6th/7th with runners on when the game is on the line. Using Marmol in those spots (where he was fantastic last year) means more save opportunities for the closer. And coming in with nobody on in the 9th is a LOT easier than coming in with runners on base needing a big out.

by SouthernCub on Mar 7, 2008 12:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

plus

woody is a good closer candidate...its not like were running wuertz out to be the closer instead of marmol.

by cubsmania on Mar 7, 2008 1:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

yes, I agree completely

by wojo on Mar 7, 2008 2:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I think he is

better as a set up guy with this team. We are lucky to have a Wood possibly to close. This will keep Marmol blowing them away in the 7th or 8th.

What I am saying is it is nice not to have to put Marmol in the closer's roll out of necessity

"You can't take life to seriously, you don't get out of it alive"

by wild bill on Mar 7, 2008 2:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Plus...

...and I can't state this with enough force, it suits the Cubs best for Wood to be the closer with Marmol and Howry as set-up men. Closers generally don't have a "quick" warm-up period, so Wood's arm would be best protected in the closer role. And given the money invested in Wood v. Marmol and Howry, the return on investment is best if Wood wins the closer position. And keeping Marmol's save numbers down might keep his arbitration number lower in the future (face it - middle relievers don't have as high an arbitration value as closers).

Now, that's not to say that the best man for the job shouldn't be closer because of arm concerns or financial considerations with the other candidates....it's just to say that IF Wood wins the closer battle, these other goals are ALSO served.

by Chadnudj on Mar 7, 2008 2:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

When Wood can throw 3 days in a row

Then he would be a closer a candidate but just because he can throw 98 mph doesn't make him a closer. Hence Kyle Farnsworth: At least Marmol has had some experience closing in Winter Ball. This is more experience than Wood has.

The benefit of keeping Marmol in the set-up role is he can come in the 6th inning and pitch two innings as a bridge to the 8th inning as for Wood or Howry they would be better suited to pitch one inning only.

by cubdreamer on Mar 7, 2008 5:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

First round of roster cuts

No surprises. Nine players were reassigned to minor league camp:

Billy Petrick, Tyler Colvin, Esmailin Caridad, Jose Ceda, Geoff Jones, Andres Torres, Bobby Scales, Wellington Castillo and Josh Donaldson.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 7, 2008 12:10 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Poor Jose Ceda

I think he needs another year or two in the minors to work on control.

Old Style is the nectar of life.

by Mordecai on Mar 7, 2008 12:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Cotts and Ascanio

will be next.

I'll go out on a long limb here that Cotts will be released.

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 7, 2008 12:21 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

If Cotts is released by a certain deadline...

...and I want to say it's the 13th, we only owe him a portion of his salary, $133,000 or so. If not, we're on the hook for all $800,000.

Again, this is from memory - the specifics could be off by a little bit. So if he's going to be released, it'll be sooner rather than later.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Mar 7, 2008 12:24 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I agree.

He's probably gone in the next round of cuts UNLESS he suddenly turns it around. Which I do not expect.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 7, 2008 12:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I think

that it is 1/6 of salary if released before mid-Spring (Mar. 13?) and 1/4 if realeased before final cutdown time (about Mar. 27).

Cotts is LH; they'll be able to trade him somewhere and won't have to release him. He may also have an option left if they want to park him at Iowa.

"I've never complained about it. I'm thankful to have a jersey." Mark DeRosa, 22 Aug 2007

by DeRoMyHero on Mar 7, 2008 2:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

no!

not geoff jones!

by wojo on Mar 7, 2008 2:11 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

A-Ram

I'm predicting he hits a HR today. Just throwing it out there.

by ak123 on Mar 7, 2008 12:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I'm predicting that

Fukudome gets on base. I know I'm really going out on a limb.

Old Style is the nectar of life.

by Mordecai on Mar 7, 2008 12:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I bet Lilly

is gonna throw real hard.

Worst to First in 2007, brought to you by Lou, Sori, A-Ram and D-Lee.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 7, 2008 12:28 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I predict Lilly...

has already thrown a chair and turned over the pre-game buffet table upon seeing that he's hitting 9th _again_.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 7, 2008 12:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I predict Lilly...

...will throw left-handed.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 1:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

son of bi___!

by wojo on Mar 7, 2008 2:17 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

A comment on the role of the closer...

I see the closer as the one pitcher on your staff who will never get pulled in the middle of an inning. That means if your closer walks the first two batters followed by a sac bunt, you've got to be comfortable leaving him in there to make or break, as there will be no one warming up in the pen. So given that scenario, who would scare you the most/least? I feel like Marmol could start throwing it to the backstop if he isn't on his game from the beginning, and Howry could get hit hard if he has to start targeting the center of the zone. Wood on the other hand has shown that he can regain his composure after a rough start, so I guess I would agree that he should close.

by Jerry Mumphrey on Mar 7, 2008 12:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Marmol...

... has also shown that he is VERY good at stranding inherited runners, something a closer rarely has to do. That's why I'd rather see him in the 7th or 8th inning.

Bullpens work best when all the pitchers have well-defined roles. This year's Cub bullpen has a real good chance of being that sort of bullpen.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 7, 2008 12:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

And young

Marmol's age is another reason to keep him out of the ninth inning. Remember that in this day and age, the Wrigley crowds generally have to have someone to pick on, and I'd rather it not be our young fireballer. Pitching in the seventh or eighth would give him more time to mature, but it's not perfectly safe (See Hawkins, LaTroy.)

For closer, I vote Woody in '08.

Et tu, Augie, et tu?

by mlf on Mar 7, 2008 1:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Awesome point...

The baseball "closer" is a valuable role, but too often overrated as the end all to a bullpen's struggles. Bill James always talks about the importance of a "Bullpen Ace" to a team, someone who you can go to in almost any tight situation. I think it's safe to say that we have three bullpen aces in Howry, Marmol and Wood. This whole "closer controversy" is far too overblown.

I think teams are beginning to see this value, and salaries for middle relievers and setup men are beginning to show this importance.

An open invitation to visit Des Moines and watch the Iowa Cubs...

by IowaCubs- on Mar 7, 2008 3:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Tell that to 1990

Cinninati Reds managed by Lou Pinella because they used the bullpen by Committee and won the World Series.

by cubdreamer on Mar 7, 2008 5:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

No, they didn't.

There were the "Nasty Boys", all right -- three of them, Randy Myers, Rob Dibble and Norm Charlton -- but the closer was Myers. He had 31 saves. Dibble had 11 and Charlton 2 (and Charlton also started 16 games).

Thinking the 1990 Reds had "closer by committee" is a myth.

1990 Reds stats from baseball-reference.com

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 7, 2008 6:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Pitching staff prediction ... a moving target

Here's what I think as of right now...

Starters....Zambrano, Lilly, Dempster, Hill, Marquis (Hendry can't find a taker)

Pen (7)....Howry, Marmol, Wood, Wuertz, Eyre, Pignatello, Lieber

Ticketed for the minors....Lahey, Ascanio, Gallagher, Hart, Fox, Petrick, Marshall

Whacked....Cotts, Shinjo

by MDBNIU on Mar 7, 2008 1:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

It would be wildly classless...

...to release Shinjo at this point. If he wants to pitch in Des Moines, then let him.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Mar 7, 2008 1:18 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Audio link up...finally.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 1:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

The most devastating loss

is one when the team lets one get away in the 9th. Somehow it doesn't seem so catastrophic when it happens in the 7th or 8th. As a result closers have been essentially limited to the 9th inning. And usually, the best reliever is given that position.

However, a number of managers are moving to the concept of using their most dominant guy when the flames are highest. That could be anywhere from 6th through 8th. IMHO, Marmol is our stopper. As a closer, he'd be unavailable in those situations. That says to me that Marmol stays out of the closer role and available when needed.

Ask yourself what would have happened if Dempster and Marmol had changed slots last year. Dempster would have been used on all those occasions in the earlier innings to stop the damage. Marmol would have only been used in the 9th. I suggest we would have never won the division.

If you like Selig's handling of the steroid issue, you'll love his choice for next Cub owner.

by tharr on Mar 7, 2008 2:02 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I agree...

Marmol is that nasty set-up man that you put in that spot to hopefully get you out of the jam. I know it's still a stressful position, but in that situation giving up a run or two is usually not completely the set-up man's fault. The blame is almost shared (with the pitcher before him)... if that makes sense.

Plus you have another inning or two to make up the deficit if the lead is given up.

"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano

by CubsBullsBears on Mar 7, 2008 2:14 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

And away we go

Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Mar 7, 2008 2:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Ouch.

Lilly off to a bit of a shaky start I'd say. 2-0 Mariners, nobody out.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 2:12 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

These Mariner PBP announcers annoy me

I liked the K.C. announcers much better.

by zevkalman on Mar 7, 2008 2:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Maybe today WE'LL win

in the late innings!

Wouldn't that be refreshing!

LOL!

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 7, 2008 2:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Anyone willing to do PBP today?

JOHNM?

Anyone?

Thanks very much in advance!

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 7, 2008 2:14 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Scrappy McRiot got a base hit to the right side

Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Mar 7, 2008 2:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Glad we just found out...

... about Seattle-area traffic jams.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 7, 2008 2:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Theriot

I like him even though some of you tell me he is a bad ballplayer.

Was it on an 0-2 count that he just got a single?

by zevkalman on Mar 7, 2008 2:19 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

He's

SCRAPPY!

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 7, 2008 2:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Hit and run was on but Dome fouled it off

Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Mar 7, 2008 2:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Theriot stole second, but Dome walked anyway

Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Mar 7, 2008 2:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

And note...

... Theriot did NOT get thrown out oversliding 2nd on the walk.

Unlike certain other Cubs.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 7, 2008 2:23 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

LMAO!!

and WHO might you be referring to??

LOL!

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 7, 2008 2:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Hint:

It start with an "R" and rhymes with "onny Cedeno."

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Mar 7, 2008 2:27 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

LMFAO!!!

"Trapled moss on your souls; changes all you're a part; seen it all, not at all; can't defend a (Cubs fan)"- pearl jam

by section229beer on Mar 7, 2008 4:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

much thanks!

for the play by play.

wheatfield mike down here in god's country

by wheatfield mike on Mar 7, 2008 2:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Thanks JohnM.

PBP is much appreciated!!

by Tangled Up In Blue on Mar 7, 2008 2:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

D-Lee RBI double

n/t

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 7, 2008 2:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Way to go DLEE!!!

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 2:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Atta Boy, D-LEE!!

by Tangled Up In Blue on Mar 7, 2008 2:23 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Bases juiced for Murton!

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 2:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

JOHNM

to the PBP RESCUE!

GRACIAS!

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 7, 2008 2:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Hm, well, that was a little disappointing.

I guess two runs are better than none, though.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 2:29 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Come on dave...

don't do that to me! What was disappointing? Tell us what happened!

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 7, 2008 2:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Murton flied out to center field with the bags

loaded. 3 out.

by zevkalman on Mar 7, 2008 2:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

re: Come on dave...

Sorry, I'll try to stop doing that. Either that or the PBP dude needs to drink some Red Bull and speed things up a bit.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 2:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

thunder matt, pfff

by wojo on Mar 7, 2008 2:30 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

What happened?

"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano

by CubsBullsBears on Mar 7, 2008 2:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

John M's daughter [here]

Dudes, the cubs rock, no argument.
Fukudome [I've heard he's cool]
supposedly rocks?
Does he? I gotta know.
Got Fuku?

GO CUBS! wOOT! ;]

PEACE.

Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Mar 7, 2008 2:33 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Murton 5-4-3 DP

Run scores to tie it up 2-2. Fontenot flies out.

by AndHart120 on Mar 7, 2008 2:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Glad that...

... the Mariners announcers pointed out the "100 years" thing.

I would never have known that otherwise.

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 7, 2008 2:34 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

has it been that long?

seems like yesterday

by wojo on Mar 7, 2008 2:42 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

That is odd...

why would they care about the 100 year anniversary of Anne of Green Gables?

or did they mention the SIGG 100 year anniversary?

perhaps they were discussing the 100 year anniversary of the New York to Paris Race.

strange for a baseball broadcast huh?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 7, 2008 2:43 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Anne of Green Gables link...

this one works --> www.anne2008.com

sorry...

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 7, 2008 2:45 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I'm tired of...

Interruptions about Seattle traffic on KOMO.

"There is one thing I will never believe, and that is the Sox are better than the Cubs." - Frank Chance

by pfd89 on Mar 7, 2008 2:35 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Just steer clear of the 405 and you'll be OK!

n/t

"That's my opinion and if you don't like it, well, I have others." ~ Groucho Marx

by Al on Mar 7, 2008 2:37 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

now you tell me.....

AC 00 00 00 - BELIEVE

by mike on Mar 7, 2008 2:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

1-2-3 inning for Lilly

"Oh well, there's always next year!!!" Every Cub fan

by McRipper on Mar 7, 2008 2:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Lily up to bat.

grounds out to Silva for out number 3. Tied at two after two.

by zevkalman on Mar 7, 2008 2:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Cubs go down 1-2-3

all ground balls

by akcubfan on Mar 7, 2008 2:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

1-2-3 inning for the Mariners, too

Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Mar 7, 2008 2:42 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Ichiro popped out

after the previous hitter flied out to Fukudome.

2 outs.

Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Mar 7, 2008 2:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Betancourt

goes down swinging.

Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Mar 7, 2008 2:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Looks like Lilly went right after him

after that homer.

"Oh well, there's always next year!!!" Every Cub fan

by McRipper on Mar 7, 2008 2:48 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Inning over.

Lilly really settled down nicely.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 2:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I mean, top of the 3rd over.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 2:47 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Theriot grounds out for the first out

in bottom of the 3rd.

by zevkalman on Mar 7, 2008 2:48 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Fukudome has nice speed

Ran a single into a double...I think I'm gonna like that guy....

by zevkalman on Mar 7, 2008 2:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

DOME stretches a single to a double!

Sweet. 1 out. DLee up to bat.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 2:49 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

It's Kosuke

Kosuke Fukudome goes by "Kosuke," just like Ichiro Suzuki goes by "Ichiro." When are people going to embrace this? All I read is "Dome" and "Fukudome."

by MDBNIU on Mar 7, 2008 2:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Nope

His nickname is Dome.

Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Mar 7, 2008 2:52 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

remember..

the poster from Japan? "dragonfanatic" (i think) said fans over there called him "Dome" or at least chanted the name that way

by wojo on Mar 7, 2008 2:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Obssessed much?

Who cares? We do that for every Cub. We call Derek D-Lee, Aramis A-Ram, Soriano Sori, Theriot, etc. What's the big deal?

"Oh well, there's always next year!!!" Every Cub fan

by McRipper on Mar 7, 2008 2:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Is this an issue to worry about?

People have both a first and last name....Is DOME really upset if we call him DOME?

Many of the people that play Ultimate Frisbee with me call me by either my first or last name...the same in baseball. I don't get perturbed if they call me by my last name. Big deal.

by zevkalman on Mar 7, 2008 2:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

that's a pretty ridiculous complaint

we refer to almost every player by their last name

by dogcatratcheese on Mar 7, 2008 2:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

re: It's Kosuke

Yeah, what they said. You need to get hip, Daddy-O.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 2:57 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Dome...

as stated above, the Japanese BCB visitor has given us the background on why the fans nicknamed him DOME there.

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 7, 2008 3:16 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I know...

I hate that too...just like the jerks around here that call me swlgs...or woodenlegs...or santos...or swlegs...jeeze....

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 7, 2008 2:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

But it doesn't

mean we don't love you. :-)

by sue369 on Mar 7, 2008 3:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

You can

call him whatever you like just like others can call him whatever they like.

by sue369 on Mar 7, 2008 3:00 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

We should...

start a second game thread for the people who want to refer to the players by different names.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 7, 2008 3:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

re: We should...

I'm gonna start a game thread in which you may only refer to players by their first and last initials as well as the last four digits in their Social Security numbers. Obviously, you'll need to do some research beforehand.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 3:04 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Thank you..

thank you DD5483 I think MU4657 will appreciate that.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 7, 2008 3:06 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

what?

almost all players are referered to by their last name. i don't hear you complaining about all the people above discussing theriot or lee or ramirez.

by anormal on Mar 7, 2008 3:02 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

As long as we don't have reason to call him

the names we all called Corey Patterson after he fizzled after being touted so highly

"It's that wonderul relief that comes when they stop hitting you in the head with a hammer."

by lostinthevines on Mar 7, 2008 4:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

i can't listen

these announcers = dreadful

by wojo on Mar 7, 2008 2:51 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I agree.

Annoying, and dreadful, and slow....sure glad I'm not a Mariner fan.

by zevkalman on Mar 7, 2008 2:54 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

not a fan but do listen to a lot of games

cause they are the "local" team here in Portland. This isn't their regular season announcing team. They do usually put on a pretty good broadcast.

by akcubfan on Mar 7, 2008 3:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Wilkerson struck out looking

to end the Mariners' inning

Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Mar 7, 2008 2:57 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Lilly still pitching?

"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano

by CubsBullsBears on Mar 7, 2008 2:58 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

No

Walrond's in.

"Oh well, there's always next year!!!" Every Cub fan

by McRipper on Mar 7, 2008 2:59 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

wow, i have virtually no idea what happened

during that half inning, these guys think it's incidental that a baseball game is going on in the background, just vaguely refering to it on occasion

by dogcatratcheese on Mar 7, 2008 2:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Why is Les Walrond pitching? And DOME...

...has been up twice. Got a hit and walked. Then he stretched a single into a double, and slid into third on a flyout. He's always on base and he's always running.

by zevkalman on Mar 7, 2008 2:59 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

First and Third and no out...

Fontenot got a hit on a hit and run, and Murton went to third. Blanco is up...and got a hit...Cubs score again.

These announcers stink!

by zevkalman on Mar 7, 2008 3:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Hank White with the RBI!

3-2 Cubs, runners at corners, nobody out

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 3:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Lester Walrus-rond?

Seriously...why does this guy get innings that Eyre, Wurtz or someone else who is going to get ML hitter out could use to actually get ready for the season?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 7, 2008 3:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

4-2 Cubs 1 out

Ward batting for Walrond.

Pie on first, Fontenot(?) on third.

Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Mar 7, 2008 3:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I think that no one is on third.

The guy on third scored on Pie's fielder's choice. It is now 3-1 to Ward. Score is 4-2.

And it is hard to figure out what happens because the announcers stink!

by zevkalman on Mar 7, 2008 3:05 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I think Pie got on via Fielder's Choice,

where Blanco was on on second.

Oh, oops. Pie is the only base runner.

Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Mar 7, 2008 3:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

D-Ward!!!!!!!2 run shot

Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Mar 7, 2008 3:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

6-2 Cubs

New pitcher coming in.

Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Mar 7, 2008 3:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Ward hits a two run PH home run

n/t

by zevkalman on Mar 7, 2008 3:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

YEAHHHHH!!!

DWARD TWO-RUN DINGER!!!

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 3:06 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

DWARD?

We call him Daryle around here... ;)

"The one that invent the light tried 2,000 times and finally he did it, we have light...I don't want to spend 2,000 times to win Opening Day" Carlos Zambrano

by CubsBullsBears on Mar 7, 2008 3:10 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

re: DWARD?

Oh, right, sorry. Or, on my game thread, DW5522. (Don't worry, Daryle, your American Express Gold Card is safe with me!)

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 3:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

You're referring to...

Dontrelle Willis...and he's no longer in the organization.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 7, 2008 3:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

re: You're referring to...

Oh, right. Gotta update my spreadsheet. (And, Dontrelle, your American Express Gold Card is not safe with me.)

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 3:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

new nickname!

DWARLE! Groovy!

Worst to First in 2007, brought to you by Lou, Sori, A-Ram and D-Lee.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 7, 2008 3:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Ahem...

we say DW4468 over in the other game thread.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 7, 2008 3:13 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

ha !

"It's that wonderul relief that comes when they stop hitting you in the head with a hammer."

by lostinthevines on Mar 7, 2008 4:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

sounds like this game is going rather well.

lets hope the AA guys that are brought in in the 8th can hold a lead today.

AC 00 00 00 - BELIEVE

by mike on Mar 7, 2008 3:08 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Gameday..

still says bottom of 4th Murton batting...no outs.
Sigh...

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 7, 2008 3:09 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I hope

Mrton plays tomorrow so I can see him play.

by sue369 on Mar 7, 2008 3:12 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

A couple thoughts:

wow carlos silva's contract is 4/48 and ted lilly's is 4/40. looks like we're getting our money's worth out of theodore
Michael Bayou Fontenot is having himself a nice spring so far
Gameday still thinks Silva is pitching to Murton

by philadelphiacub on Mar 7, 2008 3:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Spring Stats

is there anywhere to find hitters stats for spring training? Gameday says that Kosuke is hitting 385 but i'd like to see what his OBP is.

by dkowal22 on Mar 7, 2008 3:13 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Yep.

Here.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Mar 7, 2008 3:15 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Didn't realize

that Soto was having such a good ST.

by gwood on Mar 7, 2008 3:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

All sorts of funny results in there.

Murton has a higher OBP than SLG, believe it or not.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Mar 7, 2008 3:26 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

and thank you

by dkowal22 on Mar 7, 2008 3:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

IS it possible to

Schedule the M's for the rest of ST?

For some reason, we match up well against them.

Last year it was one of the few above .500 teams we had a winning record against!

Wait 'til next year. And the next. And the Next. And the next after that too.

by TheEman on Mar 7, 2008 3:18 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Bottom of the 5th

Cubbies 6, Mariners 2

by zevkalman on Mar 7, 2008 3:22 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Sounds like this knuckleballer...

...is pretty tough. R.A. Dickey is his name. Seriously. Lee and Ramirez both K.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 3:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Interesting article on R.A. Dickey

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/27/sports/baseball/27dickey.html?ex=1361768400&en=3900d66b14c7d88 f&ei=5088&

by John Q Freejazz on Mar 7, 2008 3:29 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

the m's radio guys are excited

about the kid that they have pitching right now.

AC 00 00 00 - BELIEVE

by mike on Mar 7, 2008 3:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

I'd be excited if we had a knuckleballer.

I'd go so far as to watch White Sox telecasts if they put their knuckleballer into the rotation.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Mar 7, 2008 3:31 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

true

AC 00 00 00 - BELIEVE

by mike on Mar 7, 2008 3:33 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

He's a strange one

He doesn't have an ulnar collateral ligament in his pitching arm.

Apparently, it's like being a running back without having an ACL.

"Just like it's been before. If I don't a see a strike, I don't swing. If I see a strike, I swing."--RF Kosuke Fukudome on his patient approach at the plate.

by jasoniniowa on Mar 7, 2008 3:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

geez mike

who gave you the power to be able to form an opinion such as this...I wonder

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by TkGoUWGB on Mar 7, 2008 3:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Enjoying this Cubs lead?

Bad news: Here comes Neil Cotts.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 3:31 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

wow

neil cotts 1-2-3

AC 00 00 00 - BELIEVE

by mike on Mar 7, 2008 3:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Cotts? WTF??????

I don't understand why he's even in the ballpark unless he really does have a chance to make the club. And he did just get out of the inning without damage. Thank goodness that DOME knows how to play LF...he grabbed a well-hit ball on the warning track.

by zevkalman on Mar 7, 2008 3:34 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

re: Cotts? WTF??????

That was actually Felix Pie...in centerfield.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 3:36 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Oh. My bad.

I'm having problems with the announcers.

by zevkalman on Mar 7, 2008 3:38 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Ha ha!

See, I knew if I posted this that Cotts would pitch a 1-2-3 inning. I'm clever that way. (Uh, by the way, Neil Cotts just pitched a 1-2-3 inning.)

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 3:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

good work

AC 00 00 00 - BELIEVE

by mike on Mar 7, 2008 3:44 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Pie gets two-out single. Cintron up.

Dickey still in.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 3:39 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Cintron GO

End of six. 6-2 Cubs.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 3:40 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Interesting.

Cotts out. Pigniatello in. No pressure, Carmen!

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 3:43 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Wilkerson thrown out at 3rd

trying to stretch a double. Pie to Theriot to whoever is playing 3rd right now.

Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Mar 7, 2008 3:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

YEAHHH!!!

Wilkerson cut down at third trying to stretch a triple. Pie to Theriot.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 3:44 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Sounds like...

...Pigniatello was covering third. I think Cintron is playing there now.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 3:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Comebacker to Pigniatello

Inning over.

Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Mar 7, 2008 3:45 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Wow. Top of 7 over...

...1-2-3 for Pigniatello. Nice. Still 6-2 Cubs.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 3:46 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

these guys must have places to go.

lots of swinging early in the count

AC 00 00 00 - BELIEVE

by mike on Mar 7, 2008 3:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

If my calculations are correct....

...the much reviled Les Walrond is in line for the W today, so let's not begrudge him a couple of weeks of precious major league meal money. The poor guy can probably use it. Heck, if he eats frugally while he's in camp, he should be able to pocket a tidy piece of change.

by Mike Vails Evil Twin on Mar 7, 2008 3:50 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Top 8

Kevin Hart in to pitch.

Fuld in right, Andy White at third and Hoffpower at first.

Still 6-2 Cubs.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 3:52 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Bases loaded with Mariners, no outs.

Hart gives up single, throws away ball after getting hit by comebacker and now just hit a batter.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 4:01 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Did anyone check..

to see if that's really Hart on the mound? He may be tied up in the clubhouse...where is Ronny Cedeno?

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 7, 2008 4:07 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Hart isn't happy...

6-3 cubs...

Worst to First in 2007, brought to you by Lou, Sori, A-Ram and D-Lee.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 7, 2008 4:03 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

GO to Hoffpower, play at first...

...runners on second third. Yeah, sounded like Hart may have been hurt in the leg by the comebacker.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 4:04 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Sac fly...6-4 Cubs, 2 outs

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 4:05 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

GO to Fonty, still 6-4 Cubs...

...going to the bottom of the eighth.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 4:07 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Gameday says Campusano...

...came in to pitch after the first out.

I has a blog.

by cwyers on Mar 7, 2008 4:11 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Cubs do nuttin' in bottom of the eighth.

To the ninth! 6-4 Cubs.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 4:15 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

It's Marmol time!

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 4:17 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Does Marmol have a nickname or anything?

(cue the picture santoswoodenlegs)

by bp on Mar 7, 2008 4:19 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

Of what?

I don't know what your talking about.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 7, 2008 4:25 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

If we were to come up with a creative nickname...

then you would post a hilarious picture for that nickname and we would all laugh...

sorry, nevermind.

by bp on Mar 7, 2008 4:39 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

No you see how

the game is played.

As I've told you before, I never repeat myself.

by santoswoodenlegs on Mar 7, 2008 4:53 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

One-out bloop single.

Don't get Carlos mad.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 4:20 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Andy White spears a line drive.

Two outs.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 4:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

MARMOL!

Worst to First in 2007, brought to you by Lou, Sori, A-Ram and D-Lee.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 7, 2008 4:21 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Marmol walks Morse after long battle...

...runners at first and second, two outs.

Ladies and gentlemen, your 2008 Chicago Cubs starting outfield: Soriano-Pie-Fukudome. Let it be.

by dat cubfan daver on Mar 7, 2008 4:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

huh.

how often does Carlos Marmol -walk- someone?

Worst to First in 2007, brought to you by Lou, Sori, A-Ram and D-Lee.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 7, 2008 4:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

is it over?

BELIEVE!

by cubbie08 on Mar 7, 2008 4:25 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

Way to make it interesting Carlos!

Why does everybody stand up and sing "Take Me Out to the Ballgame" when they're already there? ~Larry Anderson

by JohnM on Mar 7, 2008 4:26 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

CUBS WIN!

good to see them get a W

AC 00 00 00 - BELIEVE

by mike on Mar 7, 2008 4:27 PM CST reply actions 0 recs

But it took one of our studs to get it done

Even non-roster kids shouldn't cough up leads like they have been

"It's that wonderul relief that comes when they stop hitting you in the head with a hammer."

by lostinthevines on Mar 7, 2008 4:30 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs

I figure Lilly is a stud

It's a disturbing trend, tho, that our starting pitchers are coming in, taking a few earned runs to get settled, and then they're fine. We can't always score 2 runs in the bottom of the first.

Dunno what happened to Hart.

Worst to First in 2007, brought to you by Lou, Sori, A-Ram and D-Lee.

by drewishdrewid on Mar 7, 2008 4:35 PM CST up reply actions 0 recs