Bleed Cubbie Blue - Cubs vs. Cardinals Friday game threadsA Chicago Cubs Fan Community Since February 9, 2005https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/community_logos/47557/cubbieblue.png2017-09-15T17:50:50-05:00http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/rss/stream/160527292017-09-15T17:50:50-05:002017-09-15T17:50:50-05:00Cubs 8, Cardinals 2: Don’t get mad, get even (and then some)
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<p>This game could have turned into a disaster. Instead, the Cubs turned a bad situation into a big win.</p> <p id="kryuAt">Let’s get this out of the way right now.</p>
<p id="uOEbjD">This was a strike, Jordan Baker.</p>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">Call hurts <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cubs?src=hash">#Cubs</a><br>Ball 3 should be strike 3<br>Top 5 Lackey vs Martinez<br>2% call same<br>5.4in from edge <a href="https://t.co/DeNV3M7A6Q">pic.twitter.com/DeNV3M7A6Q</a></p>— Cubs Strike Zone (@CubsUmp) <a href="https://twitter.com/CubsUmp/status/908777689628233729">September 15, 2017</a>
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<p id="Q3a5kD">Perhaps I have not made myself clear.</p>
<h2 id="TqQbnp"><em>That pitch was strike three, Jordan Baker.</em></h2>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">Good call Ump! <a href="https://t.co/cKMUNaEubZ">pic.twitter.com/cKMUNaEubZ</a></p>— Kristina Lackey (@klackey33) <a href="https://twitter.com/klackey33/status/908779895412727809">September 15, 2017</a>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">Another look at the pitch that led to John Lackey and Willson Contreras's ejection. Pitch No. 5 was called a ball. <a href="https://t.co/0ig39dsAC0">pic.twitter.com/0ig39dsAC0</a></p>— Jared Diamond (@jareddiamond) <a href="https://twitter.com/jareddiamond/status/908779347590426625">September 15, 2017</a>
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<p id="EXaX4O">You know, some of the things we see on <a href="https://twitter.com/cubsump">the @CubsUmp Twitter account</a> are borderline calls that could go either way; I’ve argued for automated ball-and-strike calls and we can debate whether certain pitches are balls or strikes.</p>
<p id="O1gmTY"><em><strong>But oh my, Jordan Baker, that pitch by </strong></em><span><em><strong>John Lackey</strong></em></span><em><strong> was right down the middle of the plate to </strong></em><span><em><strong>Carlos Martinez</strong></em></span><em><strong>.</strong></em></p>
<p id="TRDN8c">I mean, Martinez walked away from the plate because he knew Lackey had struck him out:</p>
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<p id="56nvh0">Everyone on freaking planet Earth knew that was strike three to Martinez, except Jordan Baker called it ball three — and the next pitch was hit for an RBI single making it 2-1 <a href="https://www.vivaelbirdos.com/">Cardinals</a>, which is why John Lackey and <span>Willson Contreras</span> got so upset. You can’t blame them, but Len and JD are correct in what they say on that video clip. You can’t lose your cool like that in a pennant-race game, and though it seemed clear to me that Contreras didn’t throw his mask at Baker, it did hit him in the leg:</p>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">When Contreras slammed helmet, it hit ump. Maddon: "Willie's passionate, emotional, and I love him for it. But that was not his intent"</p>— Carrie Muskat (@CarrieMuskat) <a href="https://twitter.com/CarrieMuskat/status/908822827742228480">September 15, 2017</a>
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<p id="ImedX6">Given the egregiousness of the horrendous call, perhaps this won’t result in any suspension, or at least not a long one. Lackey sums it up best:</p>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cubs?src=hash">#Cubs</a> Lackey on umpire: "He missed the pitch. It's a big spot in a huge game and he missed the pitch."</p>— Carrie Muskat (@CarrieMuskat) <a href="https://twitter.com/CarrieMuskat/status/908819826889674754">September 15, 2017</a>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">Any regrets? Lackey: "Not really, no. It was a pretty big spot right there. It cost me a big league win. Those don't grow on trees." <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cubs?src=hash">#Cubs</a></p>— Carrie Muskat (@CarrieMuskat) <a href="https://twitter.com/CarrieMuskat/status/908820484195848198">September 15, 2017</a>
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<p id="qQ2Gmk">Say what you want about Lackey: He isn’t afraid to speak his mind and stands up for what he believes in. And Joe Maddon likes that about him:</p>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">Would Maddon have liked to seen a different response by Lackey? "Impossible. I could say I'd like to see that but why would I think that?"</p>— Carrie Muskat (@CarrieMuskat) <a href="https://twitter.com/CarrieMuskat/status/908823470225620994">September 15, 2017</a>
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<p id="WLyk2t">You know, there might have been a time when a <a href="https://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/">Cubs</a> team, faced with a situation like this, would have folded, lost the game and fallen out of contention.</p>
<p id="5NA3FD">Not this bunch, though. Not the “We Never Quit” Cubs who won the World Series in 2016. Instead, they put together a seven-run sixth against Martinez and <a href="http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/news/boxscore.jsp?gid=2017_09_15_slnmlb_chnmlb_1">won in an 8-2 rout</a>. The seven runs off the Cardinals’ ace were the most scored on him this season.</p>
<p id="6p6XMN">Now let’s head back to the beginning of the game and look at it from the start. Lackey, who has had first-inning woes going back to last year, served up a homer to <span>Tommy Pham</span> on the game’s seventh pitch. But then Lackey settled down and retire eight straight Cardinals, one of them on this slick play by <span>Javier Baez</span>:</p>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">Can’t make it look any smoother than this. <a href="https://t.co/YGjo18ZtcW">pic.twitter.com/YGjo18ZtcW</a></p>— MLB (@MLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/MLB/status/908767851447758848">September 15, 2017</a>
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<p id="6iuQuf">But Martinez was dominant early on. He retired the first 10 Cubs in order, hitting 98 on the Wrigley pitch-speed meter and striking out five of those 10, looking like he might have no-hitter stuff.</p>
<p id="KHjcGD"><span>Kris Bryant</span> took care of that with one out in the fourth:</p>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">When life throws you 99, go the other way. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/KBoom?src=hash">#KBoom</a> <a href="https://t.co/I5VLI4hf6J">pic.twitter.com/I5VLI4hf6J</a></p>— MLB (@MLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/MLB/status/908777010897522689">September 15, 2017</a>
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<p id="oqFNVB">KB’s 27th home run, to the opposite field, tied the game 1-1. <span>Anthony Rizzo</span> was hit by a pitch, advanced to second on a single by Contreras, and with two out, <span>Jon Jay</span> singled.</p>
<p id="jQjQO7">Gary Jones sent Rizzo... oh, Gary, that was not a good idea. He was thrown out easily. The Cubs could have had the bases loaded with <span>Jason Heyward</span> at bat; instead the game was still tied.</p>
<p id="sH0dCk">The fifth-inning kerfuffle involving Lackey and Contreras, I described above, so I’ll pick it up after the ejection of those two.</p>
<p id="r6Lv7M"><span>Matt Carpenter</span> is the scheduled hitter after the ejections. The Cubs ran through a lot of the bullpen Thursday night, and it’s only the fifth inning. Who do I see running out from the pen? <span>Justin Wilson</span>.</p>
<p id="EBQaXq">This sight did not fill me with confidence, and I’m sure you know why. Wilson had one job: retire Carpenter and end the inning with the Cubs down only 2-1.</p>
<p id="ySNHEc">Credit where credit is due: Wilson ran the count full on Carpenter, who then fouled off two pitches.</p>
<p id="ZpbY02">And then? And then? Well... credit where credit is due, Wilson struck him out on a cutter. Nice work. Do it more often, Justin.</p>
<p id="zVGgNZ">The Cubs had a chance at scoring in the bottom of the inning. Heyward reached on an error and one out later, <span>Tommy La Stella</span> hit for Wilson and walked. But <span>Ben Zobrist</span> hit into a double play to end the inning. <span>Carl Edwards Jr.</span> threw a 1-2-3 sixth and that’s when the Cubs bats came alive.</p>
<p id="GLxmqH">Bryant singled and Rizzo walked to lead off the sixth, and then <span>Alex Avila</span>, who wasn’t even supposed to be in this game, singled in the tying run. One out later, Jay <a href="https://www.mlb.com/video/jays-rbi-single/c-1833453183">popped a short fly into left [VIDEO]</a>. Rizzo scored to give the Cubs a 3-2 lead. Heyward walked, and Javier Baez drove in a run with a little ground ball that Martinez couldn’t handle and then made a throw home that <span>Yadier Molina</span> couldn’t handle.</p>
<p id="9GBekA"><span>Ian Happ</span>, batting for CJ, was the next hitter:</p>
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<p id="d9BxXo">Two runs scored, making it 6-2, but the Cubs weren’t done. Zobrist lofted a run-scoring fly to center and Bryant, batting for the second time in the inning, singled for the second time in the inning and the Cubs had a seven-run frame that gave them an 8-2 lead.</p>
<p id="jaxnaB">That’s the way good teams respond to tough situations like this one.</p>
<p id="8sdgGU">Then it was up to the Cubs bullpen to finish things off. <span>Pedro Strop</span> allowed two hits in the seventh, but thanks to a heads-up play by Javy, who took a bounce off the wall on the second single and threw <span>Stephen Piscotty</span> out at second, no runs scored.</p>
<p id="UhVwRx">Then Justin Grimm got in trouble with two hits allowed in the eighth. Again, this was a chance to see if Grimm could salvage anything from his awful season, and the answer appears to be “no.” This gave Joe Maddon a chance to see <span>Wade Davis</span> in his first multi-inning appearance of the year, though not in a save situation. Maddon has said he will likely want Davis to be ready to do that in the postseason, so this was a good opportunity to try it.</p>
<p id="pQ9Zhr">Davis issued a walk to load the bases, but got out of the eighth with a fly ball to center, that was knocked down a bit by a wind blowing off Lake Michigan. Then he threw a 1-2-3 ninth to end it. 25 pitches isn’t unreasonable for four outs, and you also want to see how he reacts after going off the field and sitting in the dugout while the Cubs bat. Since Davis hadn’t thrown since Sunday, this should still make him available for the next two games against the Cardinals, since the Cubs have Monday off.</p>
<p id="F6uBIp">On perhaps the nicest weather day of the entire season at Wrigley — low 80s, low humidity, unlimited sunshine, gentle breeze — the 38,464 who paid certainly got tremendous value for their entertainment dollar. That crowd pushed the season attendance over the three-million mark at 3,002,639 with five dates remaining. The Cubs will likely come up a bit short of last year’s total of 3,232,420.</p>
<p id="HVlnjt">The win, the Cubs’ fourth straight, and the way they did it certainly told the Cardinals that the Cubs would not fold in a tough pennant race. They increased their lead over St. Louis to four games and no matter what happens in Milwaukee with the <a href="https://www.fishstripes.com/">Marlins</a> and <a href="https://www.brewcrewball.com/">Brewers</a> tonight, the magic number for division clinching drops to 14. If the Marlins can beat the Brewers, it will be 13.</p>
<p id="tEsNsC">Good times. Hoping for perhaps fines and not suspensions for Lackey and Contreras when all is said and done with the mess Jordan Baker created, and no, I’m not afraid to say that. Please, Rob Manfred. Bring on the robot umpires. It’s way past time.</p>
<p id="k3CIdY">The Cubs go for the series win and their fifth consecutive victory Saturday afternoon. A reminder that Saturday’s game will be at 3:05 p.m. CT, changed from the original schedule’s 12:05. <span>Kyle Hendricks</span> goes for the Cubs and <span>Michael Wacha</span> for St. Louis.</p>
<p id="XTjzgh">#LetsGo</p>
https://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2017/9/15/16317536/cubs-cardinals-recap-john-lackey-willson-contreras-mlb-scoresAl Yellon2017-09-15T16:05:01-05:002017-09-15T16:05:01-05:00Overflow thread 3: Cubs vs. Cardinals, Friday 9/15, 1:20 CT
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https://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2017/9/15/16288282/overflow-thread-2-cubs-vs-cardinals-friday-9-15-1-20-ctAl Yellon2017-09-15T14:20:01-05:002017-09-15T14:20:01-05:00Overflow thread 1: Cubs vs. Cardinals, Friday 9/15, 1:20 CT
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https://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2017/9/15/16288242/overflow-thread-1-cubs-vs-cardinals-friday-9-15-1-20-ctAl Yellon2017-09-15T13:15:02-05:002017-09-15T13:15:02-05:00First pitch thread: Cubs vs. Cardinals, Friday 9/15, 1:20 CT
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<p id="Dsfz1e">Go get ‘em, John.</p>
https://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2017/9/15/16288392/first-pitch-thread-cubs-vs-cardinals-friday-9-15-1-20-ctAl Yellon2017-09-15T11:30:01-05:002017-09-15T11:30:01-05:00Chicago Cubs vs. St. Louis Cardinals preview, Friday 9/15, 1:20 CT
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<p>I don’t have to tell you how important this series is.</p> <p id="obNpac">Cubs/Cardinals series don’t really need that much hype, even when there’s not a postseason berth at stake. And with this series, there is, so anything I could say here won’t really add anything you don’t already know about Cubs vs. Cardinals.</p>
<p id="lF1cHE">I’ll simply mention the Cubs are 8-4 against St. Louis this year and have won five of the last six games played between the two clubs.</p>
<p id="6Ry1Dw">Onward.</p>
<p id="FDd9zl">Here are today’s particulars.</p>
<p id="Yv7Z7W"><a href="https://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/">Cubs</a> lineup:</p>
<blockquote><p id="iY5t2L">Zobrist 2B, Bryant 3B, Rizzo 1B, Contreras C, Schwarber LF, Jay CF, Heyward RF, Baez SS, Lackey P</p></blockquote>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here is today's <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cubs?src=hash">#Cubs</a> starting lineup.<br><br>Game preview: <a href="https://t.co/8HQW14zPNu">https://t.co/8HQW14zPNu</a> <a href="https://t.co/JsihoDrBj2">pic.twitter.com/JsihoDrBj2</a></p>— Chicago Cubs (@Cubs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Cubs/status/908700510034767873">September 15, 2017</a>
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<span>John Lackey</span> vs. <span>Carlos Martinez</span>
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<p id="EgOFJw">John Lackey, who otherwise could have been on target to start against the <a href="https://www.amazinavenue.com/">Mets</a>, was pushed back to start this game because of his success against his former team, the Cardinals.</p>
<p id="k7KQSc">In two starts against St. Louis this year, Lackey has a 3.46 ERA and 1.077 WHIP in 13 innings, and overall in six starts against them since joining the Cubs, Lackey has a 2.50 ERA and 0.983 WHIP in 39⅔ innings, with 44 strikeouts.</p>
<p id="74ZtOd">His last start, a week ago vs. the <a href="https://www.brewcrewball.com/">Brewers</a>, was brilliant: seven innings, two runs, nine strikeouts. I’ll take one like that any time.</p>
<p id="Jipu4X"><span>Carlos Martinez</span> vs. the Cubs this year: three starts, 2.25 ERA, 1.300 WHIP. That’s really good. One of those starts, back in April, was seven shutout innings. The other two have just been decent: six total runs in 12x innings. The Cardinals won all three Martinez starts vs. the Cubs, three of the four games they’ve won against the Cubs this year. So this is likely going to be the toughest game of this series.</p>
<p id="JKojri"><span>Anthony Rizzo</span> has hit three career homers off Martinez.</p>
<p id="b9gUgx">Today's game is on ABC7 Chicago. It’s also on MLB Network (outside the Chicago and St. Louis markets).</p>
<p id="y4SIM1"><a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/mediacenter/index.jsp?ymd=20140401#date=9/15/2017">Here is the complete MLB.com Mediacenter for today.</a></p>
<p id="Xe5URc"><a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2017_09_15_slnmlb_chnmlb_1&mode=classic">MLB.com Gameday (classic mode)</a> (Note: Going forward, I am going to link to the “classic” Gameday here because <a href="http://MLB.com">MLB.com</a> broke the links I used to use to get to their “new” Gameday. If you click on this link, you can then click on “New Gameday” at the bottom of the page to get to the updated version. Note that the “classic” Gameday won’t load until just before game time.)</p>
<p id="cOzi2Y"><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/previews/2017/CHN201709150.shtml">Baseball-reference.com game preview</a></p>
<p id="G92wAe"><a href="http://www.sbnation.com/mlb/events/522926/pregame">SB Nation game preview</a></p>
<p id="AScVZw">Please visit our SB Nation <a href="https://www.vivaelbirdos.com/">Cardinal</a>s site <a href="http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/">Viva el Birdos</a>. If you do go there to interact with Cardinals fans, please be respectful, abide by their individual site rules and serve as a good representation of Cub fans in general and BCB in particular.</p>
<p id="4R9cxt">The 2017 Game Thread procedure will be the same as the one used during 2016. Here's how it works.</p>
<p id="uNrOo7">You'll find the game preview posted separately on the front page, two hours before game time (90 minutes for some early day games following night games).</p>
<p id="Jy7Er2">At the same time, a StoryStream containing the preview will also post on the front page. The First Pitch Thread and all the overflow threads will be published in that stream, as well as the recap. The recap will also live on the front page as a separate post, and at the time I write the recap I will rename the stream "Cubs vs. (Team) (Day of Week) Game Threads" so you can go back and find every thread related to that particular game.</p>
<p id="F5ehVY">You will also be able to find the preview, First Pitch Thread, all the overflow threads and recap in the box marked "Chicago Cubs Game Threads" at the bottom of the front page (you can also find them in <a href="http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/chicago-cubs-game-threads">this section link</a>). They will also appear in the game's StoryStream as noted above.</p>
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