Bleed Cubbie Blue - Cubs vs. Tigers Tuesday 8/25 game threadsA Chicago Cubs Fan Community Since February 9, 2005https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/community_logos/47557/cubbieblue.png2020-08-29T09:15:00-05:00http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/rss/stream/211648422020-08-29T09:15:00-05:002020-08-29T09:15:00-05:002020 Cubs Heroes and Goats: Games 29-30
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<p>I can safely say I was having more fun than most of you</p> <p id="3FcLOX">I had a personal opportunity to get away for a few days this week. That coincided with the final two games of the <a href="https://www.blessyouboys.com/">Tigers</a> series. Obviously, I’m very aware of the things that went on in the two games, though I didn’t follow either closely. I’m also very aware of the things going on around the world and the world of sports, but in this space, we will always talk solely about baseball and not the things going on in the backdrop. Certainly, the players don’t play in a vacuum and certainly nobody can say for sure what kind of an impact the world at large has on the in game product. But again, we’re not going to talk about that here. </p>
<p id="uOjFP7">Baseball games were played and so we’ll look at what actually happened. The very short version is that the <a href="https://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/">Cubs</a> lost two straight games Tuesday and Wednesday to the Tigers. The first of those two losses was in blowout fashion. The second one was a weird one. Things went well early in the Wednesday game, but then <span>Ryan Tepera</span> had his first rough outing and ultimately, that probably cost the Cubs a game. It’s always hard to place the blame on one guy, but the vast majority of the Tigers damage occurred with Tepera on the hill. And the deficit ended up being too large for a come from behind attempt. </p>
<p id="AB3fDA">The Cubs have just too many missing and ineffective bats right now. That leaves them with very little margin for error and when things go sideways, they just don’t have the ability to go toe to toe right now. I’m going to keep using those words though. Right now. If you tell me that <span>Kris Bryant</span> is never going to contribute for this team and that <span>Javier Baez</span>, <span>Anthony Rizzo</span>, and <span>Willson Contreras</span> are going to under achieve their numbers, then I’m going to tell you that the Cubs are in a lot of trouble. But I don’t believe that. </p>
<p id="8q91ya">Only time will tell. But the two losses were at least mitigated a bit by losses by other teams in the division and so the Cubs continued to lead the NL Central, at least for a bit longer. That Cubs hot start to the season has bought them some margin for error. If they can right the ship, they still have a very good chance of winning the division. If they can do that, they’ll have at least a puncher’s chance with two very good starters at the top in <span>Yu Darvish</span> and <span>Kyle Hendricks</span>, a third with a ton of post season experience in <span>Jon Lester</span> and a deep offensive core who all also have a ton of experience. </p>
<p id="uHRtVg">This is why we try to never get too high when things are going great. The tide almost always turns. But we also want to try not to get too low when things are going badly. The tide should turn again. This team hasn’t fought its last fight. Not yet anyway. </p>
<p id="40HUlk">With that, we turn our attention to these two games against the Tigers as we look at what WPA had to say about Heroes and Goats. As always the Heroes and Goats are determined by WPA (Win Probability Added) and are not in any way subjective. Many days WPA will not tell the story of what happened, but often it can give at least a glimpse to who rose to the occasion in a high leverage moment or who didn’t get the job done in that moment. With that, let’s get to the results.</p>
<p id="n5sYDs"><strong>Game 29, August 25: </strong>Tigers 7, Cubs 1 (18-11)</p>
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<p id="MO9dWg"><strong>THREE HEROES:</strong></p>
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<strong>Superhero: </strong><span>Duane Underwood Jr.</span> (.103). Two batters faced, two strikeouts. Can’t beat that.</li>
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<strong>Hero: </strong><span>Kyle Schwarber</span> (.018). You know it’s a rough night when one walk in four plate appearances lands up here... </li>
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<strong>Sidekick: </strong><span>David Bote</span> (.017). ...and it isn’t a lot better when that same line lands you here. </li>
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<p id="TeoABh"><strong>THREE GOATS:</strong></p>
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<strong>Billy Goat: </strong><span>Tyler Chatwood</span> (-.201). Tyler got roughed up. He allowed three hits and five walks while recording only four outs. Getting charged with only two runs wasn’t bad at least. </li>
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<strong>Goat: </strong><span>Victor Caratini</span> (-.093). Vic struck out all three times he batted. Ouch.</li>
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<strong>Kid: </strong><span>Willson Contreras</span> (-.091). He did account for the lone Cubs run with a solo homer. </li>
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<p id="XygkWq"><strong>WPA Play of the Game: </strong><span>Cameron Maybin</span> came up with a runner on first and no outs in the bottom of the sixth. At the time, the game was only 2-0. He Doubled in a run and then advanced to third on an error. (.083)</p>
<p id="ciCikV">*Cubs Play(s) of the Game: Well, this has never happened before. Three plays had the same top point value. Kyle Schwarber drew a walk leading off the top of the sixth with the Cubs trailing 2-0. Duane Underwood’s strikeout of <span>Niko Goodrum</span> with the bases loaded in the second to end the inning matched that WPA. Also, Tyler Chatwood induced a ground out with the bases loaded to end the first. (.052)</p>
<p id="dhPla0"><strong>Game 30, August 26: </strong>Tigers 7, Cubs 6 (18-12)</p>
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<p id="z4oLAf"><strong>THREE HEROES: </strong></p>
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<strong>Superhero: </strong><span>Ian Happ</span> (.230). Three hits and a walk in five plate appearances. He only managed to score one run though. </li>
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<strong>Hero: </strong>Jon Lester (.198). Five innings, eight hits, one walk, one run. Five strikeouts.</li>
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<strong>Kid: </strong><span>Nico Hoerner</span> (.160). Nico filled up the box score even more. He matched the three hits and a walk, but did it in four plate appearances. He scored twice and drove in one. </li>
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<p id="xyrofK"><strong>THREE GOATS: </strong></p>
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<strong>Billy Goat: </strong>Ryan Tepera (-.496). The worst (consequential) relief outing by a Cub in about a month (<span>Craig Kimbrel</span>, July 27). Tepera came in with two outs and the Cubs leading 3-2 with a man on third. His sequence went as follows: single, single, single (with an error), double, single, strikeout. He allowed one inherited run and then three of his own. </li>
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<strong>Goat: </strong>Javier Baez (-.147). Javy did have an RBI on a sac fly in the third inning. He also had a first inning single. The outs he made in his other three at bats really sunk him. </li>
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<strong>Kid: </strong>Anthony Rizzo (-.130). Rizzo had a similar line of one hit in four at bats. He actually drove in two runs, but had the same story where the outs really dragged him down. </li>
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<p id="Qsz4Wq"><strong>WPA Play of the Game: </strong>Ex-Cub Jeimer Candelario batted with runners on first and second and the score tied at three with two outs in the sixth. He singled, driving in one. Ian Happ made an error on the play allowing the runners to move up to second and third. (.173)</p>
<p id="tTC08Z">*Cubs Play of the Game: Ian Happ batted with a runner on second in the ninth inning with the Cubs trailing 7-5. He singled, putting runners at the corners with no outs. (.137)</p>
<p id="JmhQ6C">Heroes & Goats for Friday’s game against the <a href="https://www.redreporter.com/">Reds</a> will post at 10:30 a.m. CT.</p>
https://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2020/8/29/21406418/2020-cubs-heroes-and-goats-games-29-30Thomas Smith2020-08-26T08:00:00-05:002020-08-26T08:00:00-05:00Tigers 7, Cubs 1: Lessons learned
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<p>This was not a good game, but the Cubs got some useful information from it.</p> <p id="MPFwgP"><a href="http://www.mlb.com/news/boxscore.jsp?gid=2020_08_25_chnmlb_detmlb_1">The Cubs lost to the Tigers 7-1</a> Tuesday evening, and perhaps the less said about the score of the game, the better.</p>
<p id="TZUw6V">Nevertheless, <span>David Ross</span> and the coaching staff likely learned some things from this game. You and I certainly did, so let’s go over them.</p>
<p id="C2RcHX">For some reason, the 2018 version of <span>Tyler Chatwood</span> showed up for this game, his first after a stint on the injury list. Chatwood couldn’t throw strikes — only 27 in 55 pitches — and walked five of the 12 batters he faced. Is he still injured? If so, get him back on the IL. If not... I think he’s headed back to the bullpen.</p>
<p id="GrOabS">Despite Chatwood’s poor performance — he also gave up three hits — the Cubs trailed only 2-0 when he was removed, and thanks to <span>Duane Underwood Jr.</span> that score remained the same at the end of the second inning. Underwood entered the game with the bases loaded and one out and calmly struck out <span>Jeimer Candelario</span> and Niko Goodrum. Nice work, Duane, you might have saved your spot in the bullpen with that one.</p>
<p id="alSLSz">So that’s lesson one.</p>
<p id="stwOLu">Lesson two: <span>Jose Quintana</span>, despite cutting his thumb open and not pitching at all since spring training, had an excellent 2020 debut. He threw three strong innings, the third, fourth and fifth, allowing just two singles in those three innings and facing just one over the minimum due to a double play.</p>
<p id="hu8cCm">Q ran out of gas in the sixth, allowing a single and double that made it 3-0. After he walked <span>Austin Romine</span>, Ross summoned <span>Casey Sadler</span>.</p>
<p id="WJBTwc">Well, that was a mistake. Sadler, who was signed by the Cubs primarily because he had a very good walk rate, has been miserably bad in that category this year. He walked <span>Isaac Paredes</span>, loading the bases — that gave Sadler eight walks in nine innings in 2020 — then got one out on a fly ball. That gave some brief hope that the damage could be limited, but <span>Jonathan Schoop</span> then smashed a baseball out of Comerica Park for a grand slam.</p>
<p id="98oDYN">That, in addition to putting the game away for Detroit, made Quintana’s line look worse than his actual pitching, since two of the runs on the slam were charged to Q. Quintana threw 55 pitches, struck out three and walked one, and generally looked effective. Recommendations from here, not that anyone on the Cubs will listen:</p>
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<li id="sdDGw7">Chatwood should go back to the bullpen, or to the injured list if he’s still hurt</li>
<li id="jerN2I">Quintana should take over that spot in the rotation</li>
<li id="leueMC">Sadler should be designated for assignment and one of the lefties in South Bend (maybe <span>Matt Dermody</span> or <span>Danny Hultzen</span>) should be added to the bullpen. Sadler isn’t a prospect — he’s 30 — and the Cubs could use the LH help.</li>
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<p id="K6QHty">Once again, the Cubs did have some chances to score when the game was still close at 2-0. They had RISP in the third, fourth and fifth innings but failed to push any runners across the plate.</p>
<p id="sOJlb4">Finally, in the ninth, <span>Willson Contreras</span> <a href="https://cuts.diamond.mlb.com/FORGE/2020/2020-08/25/28972808-bd286238-bef1ab85-csvm-diamondx64-asset_1280x720_59_4000K.mp4">put the Cubs on the board [VIDEO]</a>.</p>
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<p id="YK3m12">That’s actually very good news. Willson had been in a horrific slump. Over his 15 games prior to Tuesday: .116/.304/.140 (5-for-43) with one extra-base hit (a double). He had walked nine times, to be sure, but that kind of hitting should have gotten him a day off here or there. More good news about the home run:</p>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hey, Willson Contreras just belted a homer in the 9th. His third of the year -- first since Aug. 4. <a href="https://t.co/rUBJDvsYEg">https://t.co/rUBJDvsYEg</a></p>— Jordan Bastian (@MLBastian) <a href="https://twitter.com/MLBastian/status/1298445960520114178?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 26, 2020</a>
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<p id="rxYLpA">Hopefully, this gets Willson on a hot streak. <span>Javier Baez</span> went just 1-for-4, but keeps hitting the ball hard:</p>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">Báez's stat line shows a 1-for-4 tonight, but of his 3 outs, he hit a pair of rocket line drives - 95.8 mph (.590 xBA) and 105.1 mph (.860 xBA).</p>— Tony Andracki (@TonyAndracki23) <a href="https://twitter.com/TonyAndracki23/status/1298443030437998593?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 26, 2020</a>
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<p id="f4ZLmP">And <span>Jason Heyward</span>’s 1-for-3 included a triple, and over his last 14 games since August 11 he’s hitting .343/.489/.657 (12-for-35) with four doubles, two triples and a home run. He’s also walked 10 times and struck out just six, one of the Cubs’ best hitters over the last two weeks.</p>
<p id="LGI3Hh">So there were some silver linings in this loss and elsewhere Tuesday, where the <a href="https://www.vivaelbirdos.com/">Cardinals</a> lost to the <a href="https://www.royalsreview.com/">Royals</a>. That allowed the Cubs to maintain a three-game lead in the NL Central.</p>
<p id="mby2nN">The Cubs will go for the series win Wednesday evening in Detroit. <span>Jon Lester</span> will start for the Cubs and <span>Michael Fulmer</span> will go for the Tigers. Game time is again 6:10 p.m. CT and TV coverage will be via Marquee Sports Network.</p>
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<p id="uu7nHh"><em><strong>SITE NOTE:</strong></em><em> A reminder that the Heroes & Goats feature is on hiatus until Saturday.</em></p>
https://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2020/8/26/21402319/cubs-tigers-recap-jose-quintana-willson-contreras-mlb-scoresAl Yellon2020-08-25T20:10:00-05:002020-08-25T20:10:00-05:00Overflow thread 2: Cubs vs. Tigers, Tuesday 8/25, 6:10 CT
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<p id="U1KYJP">Go get ‘em, Tyler.</p>
https://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2020/8/25/21400808/first-pitch-thread-cubs-vs-tigers-tuesday-8-25-6-10-ctAl Yellon2020-08-25T16:00:00-05:002020-08-25T16:00:00-05:00Chicago Cubs vs. Detroit Tigers preview, Tuesday 8/25, 6:10 CT
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<p>The Cubs go for two in a row in Detroit and three straight wins overall.</p> <p id="KsivNP">Today’s roster moves: <a href="https://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2020/8/25/21400984/cubs-roster-moves-tyler-chatwood-jose-quintana-activated-jason-adam-ian-miller-optioned">Here</a></p>
<p id="rXQL07">Tuesday notes:</p>
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<strong>ROAD WARRIORS... OR NOT:</strong> The <a href="https://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/">Cubs</a> are hitting 56 points higher on the road (.266) than at home (.210), and its .805 road OPS is 94 points higher than its .711 home OPS. However, the Cubs have a 5.53 ERA (43 earned runs in 70 innings) on the road and a 3.86 ERA (75 earned runs in 175 innings) at Wrigley Field. </li>
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<strong>ELEVEN THOUSAND</strong>: The Cubs are 1,000-949-2 (.513) since they posted their 10,000th victory. That win, incidentally, came <a href="https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/COL/COL200804230.shtml">April 23, 2008</a> against the <a href="https://www.purplerow.com/">Rockies</a> at Colorado. It’s the first time the team has a winning record between 1,000-win milestones since 1940. The Cubs played .581 ball between wins 4,001 and 5,000. (H/T: Ed Hartig)</li>
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<strong>A BIT OF RELIEF:</strong> Cubs relievers are averaging 10.60 strikeouts per nine innings (104 strikeouts in 88⅓ IP), third-best in the N.L. and fourth in the majors (the <a href="https://www.brewcrewball.com/">Brewers</a> lead at 12.14).</li>
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<strong>IT’S ALL ABOUT THAT BASE:</strong> The Cubs’ 109-point difference between their .228 team batting average and their .337 OBP is the largest in the majors </li>
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<p id="D5FR67">Here are today’s particulars.</p>
<p id="3IvQgQ"><a href="https://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/">Cubs</a> lineup:</p>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">Tyler Chatwood returns to the mound tonight against the Tigers! <a href="https://t.co/vj9RJrLCJW">pic.twitter.com/vj9RJrLCJW</a></p>— Chicago Cubs (@Cubs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Cubs/status/1298352419114561537?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 25, 2020</a>
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<p id="ChpfkK"><a href="https://www.blessyouboys.com/">Tigers</a> lineup:</p>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here's how we line up today.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/DetroitRoots?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#DetroitRoots</a> <a href="https://t.co/HWbSebjRq6">pic.twitter.com/HWbSebjRq6</a></p>— Detroit Tigers (@tigers) <a href="https://twitter.com/tigers/status/1298323993326424064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 25, 2020</a>
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<span>Tyler Chatwood</span>, RHP vs. <span>Spencer Turnbull</span>, RHP</h2>
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<p id="psSTHE">Tyler Chatwood hit the injured list with back trouble shortly after having a horrific outing against the <a href="https://www.royalsreview.com/">Royals</a>. The less said about that, the better. His first two starts were quite good, so hopefully a healthy Chatwood can return to that form.</p>
<p id="BJjofu">Chatwood hasn’t faced the Tigers since 2017, and most of the players from <a href="https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/COL/COL201708300.shtml">that game</a> are long gone from Detroit. The only Tiger who has more than three career AB against him is <span>Miguel Cabrera</span>, who’s 0-for-6. Hopefully, that’s a good sign.</p>
<p id="FkEq6f">Looks like Chatwood and Jose Quintana are likely piggybacking tonight:</p>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">Cubs will start Tyler Chatwood followed by Jose Quintana if all goes according to plan tonight vs Detroit. Both are coming off the injured list</p>— Jesse Rogers (@JesseRogersESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/JesseRogersESPN/status/1298360525311447040?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 25, 2020</a>
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<p id="zeqi0b">Spencer Turnbull has made five starts this year, with pretty good success — 3.50 ERA, 1.378 WHIP. That WHIP includes a pretty high walk rate — 5.5 per nine innings — so perhaps the generally patient Cubs hitters can take advantage of that.</p>
<p id="Jol10C">Turnbull has never faced the Cubs. The only Cub who has more than three at-bats against him is <span>Jason Kipnis</span>, who’s had quite a bit of success — 4-for-12, a double, two home runs. I’d like to see more of that tonight.</p>
<p id="pe9mxA">Today’s game is on Marquee Sports Network. <a href="https://www.marqueesportsnetwork.com/providers/">Here is a list of providers currently carrying Marquee.</a> </p>
<p id="7sQ1M9"><a href="https://www.mlb.com/live-stream-games/2020/08/25">Here is the complete MLB.com Mediacenter for today.</a></p>
<p id="Xe5URc"><a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2020_08_25_chnmlb_detmlb_1">MLB.com Gameday</a></p>
<p id="iDRiK8"><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/previews/2020/DET202008250.shtml">Baseball-reference.com game preview</a></p>
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<p id="7oSHCm">The 2020 Game Thread procedure will be the same as the one used in previous years. Here’s how it works.</p>
<p id="uNrOo7">You’ll find the game preview posted separately on the front page two hours before game time (90 minutes for some early day games following night games).</p>
<p id="Jy7Er2">At the same time, a StoryStream containing the preview will also post on the front page, titled “Cubs vs. (Team) (Day of Week/Date) game threads.” It will contain every thread related to that particular game, including the First Pitch Thread and all the overflow threads, as well as the recap when it’s published. The recap will also live on the front page as a separate post. </p>
<p id="F5ehVY">You will also be able to find the preview, First Pitch Thread and all the overflow threads in the box marked “Chicago Cubs Game Threads” at the bottom of the front page (you can also find them in <a href="http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/chicago-cubs-game-threads">this section link</a>). The StoryStream for each game can also be found in that section.</p>
<p id="pjBR1E">The First Pitch thread will post at five minutes before game time, then an overflow thread at one hour, two hours and 2:45 after the scheduled game time.</p>
<p id="cWIBoH">Discuss amongst yourselves.</p>
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