Bleed Cubbie Blue - Cubs vs. Reds Tuesday 8/17 game threadsA Chicago Cubs Fan Community Since February 9, 2005https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/community_logos/47557/cubbieblue.png2021-08-18T08:00:00-05:00http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/rss/stream/223923602021-08-18T08:00:00-05:002021-08-18T08:00:00-05:00Cubs 2, Reds 1: Thank you, Ian Happ, Frank Schwindel and Kyle Hendricks
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<p>... who all helped end the Cubs’ 12-game losing streak.</p> <p id="c8ONdY">Hey, know what? Some of these sub <a href="https://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/">Cubs</a> can play baseball pretty well, and against a good team, too.</p>
<p id="e5HxSc">The Cubs began Tuesday 14 games behind the Reds and in free fall, on a 12-game skid.</p>
<p id="E2TXu6">But they got outstanding pitching from Kyle Hendricks and three relievers, and just enough offense from Ian Happ and Frank Schwindel to end that losing streak with <a href="https://www.mlb.com/gameday/cubs-vs-reds/2021/08/17/632871">a nicely-played 2-1 win</a>.</p>
<p id="HL5xQg">So, yay?</p>
<p id="fu2HQo">Heck yes, yay, it felt good watching it and I’m sure it felt good to the players.</p>
<p id="XrS5uY">The Cubs broke a scoreless tie in the top of the third. With one out, Rafael Ortega walked and <a href="https://mlb-cuts-diamond.mlb.com/FORGE/2021/2021-08/17/6ad4cbbe-de039f87-85d91364-csvm-diamondx64-asset_1280x720_59_4000K.mp4">Schwindel ripped a double into the left-field corner [VIDEO]</a>.</p>
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<p id="GuarsK">Hendricks nursed that 1-0 lead into the sixth. He didn’t allow a hit until one out in the fifth, when Tyler Naquin singled. Kyle didn’t have his best stuff, as he issued three walks, but only allowed three hits.</p>
<p id="i3zy7u">Ian Happ gave the Cubs <a href="https://mlb-cuts-diamond.mlb.com/FORGE/2021/2021-08/17/43ee9766-d96c24d9-9f3c5f10-csvm-diamondx64-asset_1280x720_59_4000K.mp4">a two-run lead in the top of the sixth [VIDEO]</a>.</p>
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<p id="lLsVXZ">That homer was his 13th of the year, one of three hits he had on the night. I’m still kind of down on Happ, but he will certainly get more chances to show that he could be a part of a better 2022 Cubs team. Also:</p>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">Three-hit night for Ian Happ. First time since May 21st. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cubs?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cubs</a></p>— Russell Dorsey (@Russ_Dorsey1) <a href="https://twitter.com/Russ_Dorsey1/status/1427805174198845449?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 18, 2021</a>
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<p id="p1d2Ig">The Reds got that run back in the bottom of the sixth on Hendricks’ only real mistake, a home run ball served up to Nick Castellanos.</p>
<p id="Txvtuu">Kyle completed six innings and had two good starts this year in GABP (1.50 ERA, 0.917 WHIP), a place where he’s historically not done well, so there’s that.</p>
<p id="Oer7n6">Then it was up to the Cubs bullpen to hold the lead, because Cubs batters kept hitting into double plays, three of them overall on the night, and an inexplicable attempt to steal second by Andrew Romine in the ninth, thrown out easily by Reds pitcher Tony Santillan.</p>
<p id="RkTWX3">Rowan Wick, who I think eventually will get some closing opportunities, was the first man out of the pen. He got into a bit of trouble, with two singles and a hit batter loading the bases with one out. Wick struck out Jonathan India, but David Ross didn’t want to leave him in to face Cub-killer Joey Votto, so Ross summoned Adam Morgan. Morgan has actually been pretty good of late, and with the bases still loaded <a href="https://mlb-cuts-diamond.mlb.com/FORGE/2021/2021-08/17/0cd7b147-4040f9b0-640362f8-csvm-diamondx64-asset_1280x720_59_4000K.mp4">Morgan retired Votto on one pitch [VIDEO].</a></p>
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<p id="7fa3uW">Codi Heuer retired the Reds on just eight pitches in the eighth, and I was hoping Ross would leave him in for a two-inning save. That’s exactly what happened, and Heuer rose to the occasion, retiring the Reds 1-2-3, all told getting six outs on just 17 pitches. <a href="https://bdata-producedclips.mlb.com/21ae9acc-2409-470a-bd59-af612803a8e0.mp4">Here’s the final out of the first Cubs win since August 4 [VIDEO].</a></p>
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<p id="w5DJnz">That was Heuer’s first Cubs save (he had one last year with the <a href="https://www.southsidesox.com/">White Sox</a>). May there be many more such saves. And it produced the 14th win of the season for Hendricks, which leads the major leagues, bizarrely enough. Kyle should get six or seven more starts. Twenty wins, which I think is still a nice milestone for a pitcher even though individual pitcher wins don’t mean what they used to, could still happen.</p>
<p id="4KDVYI">That was a nicely-played baseball game by the Chicago Cubs, a pleasure to see after so much bad baseball the last two weeks.</p>
<p id="ic4HP1">Much was made about this pre-game:</p>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chicago Tribune box score from the Chicago-Cleveland game on May 8, 1894. The last time (prior to Tuesday) that the Cubs franchise (known then as the Colts) had brothers in the starting lineup in the same game. Kid and Lew Camp.<br><br>Via <a href="https://t.co/2scQdofEP0">https://t.co/2scQdofEP0</a> <a href="https://t.co/Q6XYYczZ6o">pic.twitter.com/Q6XYYczZ6o</a></p>— Jordan Bastian (@MLBastian) <a href="https://twitter.com/MLBastian/status/1427752206959357962?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 17, 2021</a>
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<p id="Bry9PD">As you can see, the Cubs franchise (then informally known as “Colts,” as team nicknames really didn’t get formalized until the early 20th Century) lost that game 18-3 to Cleveland. Tuesday’s result was better. Fun fact:</p>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Cubs are 1-0 when David Ross starts both Romine brothers.</p>— jon greenberg (@jon_greenberg) <a href="https://twitter.com/jon_greenberg/status/1427812509709479940?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 18, 2021</a>
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<p id="XAxgn4">Dare I say this? The Chicago Cubs have a chance to win a series — on the road. That has not happened for this year’s team since right after the All-Star break, when they took two of three from the <a href="https://www.azsnakepit.com/">Diamondbacks</a> in Arizona.</p>
<p id="CPGqsM">Now, do I think this will happen? No, I do not, especially with Triple-A Iowa callup Adrian Sampson scheduled to make his Cubs debut to start. Tyler Mahle will get the call for the Reds. Stranger things have happened, though. It’s an early start for the series finale, 11:35 a.m. CT. TV coverage will be via Marquee Sports Network and also on MLB Network outside the Cubs and Reds market territories. <strong>SITE NOTE:</strong> Because of the quick turnaround. today’s game preview will post about one hour before game time, at 10:30 a.m. CT.</p>
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<p id="4sNzAC">Go get ‘em, Kyle.</p>
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<p>Another day, another game, trying to avoid another loss.</p> <p id="bkSMLA">Today’s roster move: <a href="https://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2021/8/17/22629507/cubs-roster-move-michael-hermosillo-recalled-dan-winkler-dfa">Here</a></p>
<p id="TQWA1q">Tuesday notes. I am going to continue these (updating, of course) until the Cubs win.</p>
<p id="1Kt6IL"><strong>LOSING STREAKS:</strong> Three Cubs teams have posted 13-game losing streaks;</p>
<p id="9TdDsF"><strong>1944:</strong> The Cubs won on Opening Day and then lost 13 straight. They actually played better after that; for the rest of that season they went 74-66, the third-best record in the NL and had the best record in the NL from August 29 to season’s end, 24-15, perhaps a precursor to the 1945 pennant year.</p>
<p id="iJ7qAT"><strong>1982:</strong> In Tribune Co.’s first year of ownership, the team was hanging near .500 in late May at 21-26 when they lost 13 straight, though from August 1 through season’s end they had the second-best record in the NL at 33-24.</p>
<p id="9L9iDe"><strong>1985:</strong> The Cubs were 35-19 and in first place on June 11 when the 13-game losing streak began, and including that streak they went 42-65 from that date to season’s end, but that team at least had an excuse — all five starting pitchers hit what was then called the disabled list and guys like Johnny Abrego, Jay Baller, Derek Botehlo, Steve Engel and Reggie Patterson were starting games.</p>
<p id="H6nMsL"><strong>THE LOSSES OF AUGUST:</strong> The Cubs are 1-14 this month and have been outscored 122-57. Apart from the game they won (<a href="https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/COL/COL202108040.shtml">3-2 over the Rockies August 4</a>), they have had only seven other leads in the other 14 games:</p>
<blockquote><p id="rYF6w2">1-0 for 2½ innings August 1 in Washington<br>1-0 for half an inning August 3 in Colorado<br>1-0 for half an inning August 10 (first game) vs. Brewers<br>1-0 for half an inning August 10 (second game) vs. Brewers<br>4-1 for half an inning August 13 in Miami, the only lead of more than one run<br>1-0 for 2½ innings August 14 in Miami<br>5-4 for half an inning later in the August 14 game</p></blockquote>
<p id="AS7WLJ">Here are today’s particulars.</p>
<p id="OmIgrW"><a href="https://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/">Cubs</a> lineup:</p>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here is tonight's <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cubs?src=hash&ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Cubs</a> starting lineup. <a href="https://t.co/5IInZrj9Ug">pic.twitter.com/5IInZrj9Ug</a></p>— Chicago Cubs (@Cubs) <a href="https://twitter.com/Cubs/status/1427720817274769417?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 17, 2021</a>
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<p id="nU1Gao"><a href="https://www.redreporter.com">Reds</a> lineup:</p>
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<p lang="en" dir="ltr">Joey Votto is 999 hits away from 3,000 in his career.<a href="https://twitter.com/PNCBank?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@PNCBank</a> <a href="https://t.co/4aW12Xnae2">pic.twitter.com/4aW12Xnae2</a></p>— Cincinnati Reds (@Reds) <a href="https://twitter.com/Reds/status/1427698220738781193?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 17, 2021</a>
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<h2 id="lePhfq">Kyle Hendricks, RHP vs. Vladimir Gutierrez, RHP</h2>
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<p id="wK7QvO">Kyle Hendricks usually gets torched at GABP but not this year. In his only start in Cincinnati in 2021, <a href="https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CIN/CIN202107040.shtml">July 4</a>, he threw six strong innings, allowing five hits and one run, with no walks and five strikeouts.</p>
<p id="DBXe56">So yes, I’m saying there’s a chance.</p>
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<p id="xXgfhq">Vladimir Gutierrez has made two starts against the Cubs this year, including his MLB debut at Wrigley Field <a href="https://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/CHN/CHN202105280.shtml">May 28</a>, where he threw pretty well but the Cubs won 1-0.</p>
<p id="F5H8jv">He’s struggled some since then but is having a good August: three starts, 1.42 ERA, 1.000 WHIP, 16 strikeouts in 19 innings.</p>
<p id="TFBaSt">Clearly, we are doomed.</p>
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<p id="z1gElU">Today’s game is on Marquee Sports Network. <a href="https://www.marqueesportsnetwork.com/providers/">Here’s a list of providers currently carrying Marquee<strong>.</strong></a> </p>
<p id="6w2xna"><a href="https://www.mlb.com/live-stream-games/2021/08/17">Here is the complete MLB.com Mediacenter for today.</a></p>
<p id="Xe5URc"><a href="http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2021_08_17_chnmlb_cinmlb_1">MLB.com Gameday</a></p>
<p id="iDRiK8"><a href="http://www.baseball-reference.com/previews/2021/CIN202108170.shtml">Baseball-reference.com game preview</a></p>
<p id="7oSHCm">Please visit our SB Nation Reds site <a href="http://www.redreporter.com/">Red Reporter</a>. If you do go there to interact with Reds fans, please be respectful, abide by their individual site rules and serve as a good representation of Cub fans in general and BCB in particular.</p>
<p id="mRtOMf">The 2021 Game Thread procedure will be a bit different than previous years. It will be similar to what we’ve used for Spring Training.</p>
<p id="uNrOo7">You’ll find the game preview posted separately on the front page two hours before game time (90 minutes for some early day games following night games).</p>
<p id="Jy7Er2">At the same time, a StoryStream containing the preview will also post on the front page, titled “Cubs vs. (Team) (Day of week/date) game threads.” It will contain every post related to that particular game, including the First Pitch Thread and the overflow thread, as well as the recap when it’s published. The recap will also live on the front page as a separate post.</p>
<p id="F5ehVY">You will also be able to find the preview, First Pitch Thread and the overflow thread in the box marked “Chicago Cubs Game Threads” at the bottom of the front page (you can also find them in <a href="http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/chicago-cubs-game-threads">this section link</a>). The StoryStream for each game can also be found in that section.</p>
<p id="pjBR1E">The First Pitch thread will post at five minutes before game time, then an overflow thread at 90 minutes after the scheduled game time.</p>
<p id="cWIBoH">Discuss amongst yourselves.</p>
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